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Wardeh’s Tuesday Twister
Nine months ago, when I decided to give up soda pop for good, (good health that is), I didn’t know how I was ever going to do without it. I absolutely love the feel of carbonation’s fizzy bite as it trickles down my throat quenching my thirst, unlike any other beverage. However, my committment was made; there was no turning back; all I could do was press forward, drinking only water. I was doing okay with this, but—one fine day I discovered . . . (drumroll, please) KEFIR SODA POP!
Nahhhhhhh, I thought, Noooooo wayyyy! There couldn’t possibly be, even in my wildest dreams, a soda pop that is actually healthy and nutritious for you. But, my dear readers, there is! And I’m going to show you how to make it. Are you ready?
Conversion Process: (Please read through the following to gain an over-all understanding of the conversion process , and then you’ll find a recipe at the end you can print.)
We’ll start by converting 3 tablespoons of good kefir milk grains— that you don’t need for your milk fermentation, because once these grains are converted to soda pop grains, they can no longer be used for milk kefir. Place them in a glass bowl and gently pour a cup of spring water over them. Stir the grains with a plastic slotted spoon to separate the milk. Now pour off this water, reserving the grains. Use only plastic spoons and strainer. Once again pour one cup of spring water over the grains and stir gently to clean the grains. Pour out this water, again reserving the grains and repeat the process until there is no longer any milk residue.
Now that the grains are free of any milk residue, the conversion can begin. ( By the way, they look like a nice clump of cauliflower, don’t they?).
Into a 1-quart mason jar pour 2 cups of spring water—not tap water, not distilled water, not filtered water, not reverse osmosis water, not bath water, but SPRING WATER. Spring water is necessary because it is chock full of all those wonderful, healthy minerals that our bodies are literally crying out for, and those little kefir babies won’t mind it one bit, either! To this water add 1/4 cup organic evaporated cane juice sugar, like you buy at Costco, ( or any sugar that is as unprocessed as possible), and 10 dried cranberries (any dried fruit will work, but I prefer the way cranberries make the pop taste.) Now stir it all up vigorously, making the sugar crystals swirl round and round in the jar. Once this mini vortex has settled down, you can introduce the washed kefir grains to their new home. Put a lid on and set the jar in a dark cupboard for 2 days, agitating the bottle a couple of times daily.
At the end of the 2 days, drain the liquid off, reserving the grains—PLEASE DON’T DUMP THOSE PRECIOUS GRAINS OUT! You must protect them at all costs! You can toss out the cranberries, though, or eat them if you wish. (Note: this is the FIRST conversion culturing)
Now, rinse out the mason jar and begin again with another 2 cups SPRING WATER, 1/4 cup cane sugar, 10 dried cranberries and the grains, which at this point are starting to really dig their new habitat. You know this is true because they just look happy. . . yessssssssss they doooooo, they LOOK happy. Study them for a bit and you’ll see I’m right.
Anyway, once again put them away in a dark cupboard for 2 days, swirling twice a day. (Note: this is the SECOND conversion culturing)
Continue with a THIRD and FORTH conversion culturing, using the same regimen. At the end of this FORTH conversion culturing, SAVE THIS CULTURED LIQUID . It is now ready for the “fermentation process.” Also, keep your “converted” grains handy so you can start another culture.
Fermentation Process:
Divide the cultured liquid between two grolsch bottles . (I got mine at my local farmers’ market. They were filled with some kind of soda pop, which I poured out, but saved the wonderful bottles. They even have cute little labels. They were less expensive than buying them online )
Now fill the bottles about two-thirds full with 100 % grape juice, leaving enough room at the top for the carbonation, which results as the kefir grains consume the sugars. Place in the dark cupboard for 12 hours or until you see a slight ring of tiny bubbles around the top of the liquid. Then place in the refrigerator to chill and to stop the fermentation process.
CAUTION! When you open the bottle the first time after fermentation, do it in your sink with a cereal bowl turned upside down over the bottle top to catch any pressure explosion, which can and does occur, depending on how much carbonation there is. I’ve had this happen to me and trust me, it ain’t purdy!
I know you’re thoroughly confused and scratching your heads long about now, but it’s really not that difficult. Just follow the steps in the recipe below. Don’t hesitate to ask questions. I want you to succeed and be as happy with this healthy alternative to soda pop as I am.
Here is the recipe you can print
Converting Kefir Grains:
- Wash 3 tablespoons of milk kefir grains with 1 cup spring water.
- Wash grains again with another cup of spring water.
- In 1-quart mason jar add:
- 2 cups spring water
- ¼ cup organic evaporated cane juice sugar
- 10 dried cranberries
- Stir well, add grains and cover with lid
- Place in dark cupboard for 2 days, stirring twice each day.
- Drain liquid, reserving grains.
- Do steps 3-6 three more times. This takes a total of 8 days for the conversion.
Fermentation Process:
- Divide the “cultured liquid” into two grolsch bottles, reserving the grains to culture more water for additional soda pop.
- Add 100% grape juce to the bottles until 2/3 full.
- Close the spring-top lids and gently rock each bottle back and forth once to mix the liquids.
- Place bottles in dark cupboard for 12 hours or until a tiny ring of bubbles forms around the top of the liquid.
- Refrigerate, cool and enjoy.
To Make More Soda Pop:
Restart the culturing/fermentation process now, so you can have more pop in three days, by filling a 1-quart mason jar with the same solution of:
- 2 cups spring water
- ¼ cup organic evaporated cane juice sugar
- 10 dried cranberries
- Stir well, add grains and cover with lid
- Place in dark cupboard for 2 days, stirring twice each day.
- Separate the liquid and the grains, using the liquid to ferment the juice, and the grains to culture more water for more pop.
NOTE: I have been using the same “converted” grains since last summer, and they are still going strong. I almost think they will keep on working as long as they have the proper environment: spring water, sugar, dried fruit, warmth and darkness. Just follow this formula and I think you’ll have success. I am always available to answer any questions you have about this process ,and my experience with it, so don’t hesitate to ask. If , after the initial conversion process of 8 days, your pop lacks sparkle and fizz, don’t think you’ve failed. Just keep on doing the same process and eventually you’ll notice that the pop has become just as fizzy as you want it.
This is my process the way I do it to achieve these results. I’ve read lots of other ways, but this is what has worked the best for me.
I’ve noticed that if the “culturing” process goes on past two days, ( sometimes I forget), the “fermentation” process takes less time; however, be careful. Remember this is a “living” food and the fermentation can get out of hand. Always pay close attention when opening your bottles for the first time. Always keep your pop in the refrigerator or it will continue to ferment. Even in the refirgerator it will continue the ferment if it isn’t consumed within a couple of days. Always use the spring-top grolsch type bottles.
You can use other juices, but always add some grape juice if you want lots of carbonation. I don’t know why, but the cultured liquid adores grape juice. I think it has something to do with the type of yeast/bacteria found on grape skins.
My favorite juice to use , not only for flavor, but for a huge punch of antioxidants, is Kirkland’s Pomegranate Blueberry 100% Juice Blend, which contains not only these two very healthy juices, but apple, peach, pear, white and red grape, and kiwi, as well. This makes a very rich-colored, delicious soda pop. I LOVE IT! YOU WILL, TOO! And not only that, we’ll be soooo healthy when we drink it! Now you can’t say that about all that other soda pop out there that’s killing the population, increasing waistlines, pushing up health care costs, rotting teeth, increasing diabetes, causing earthquakes and tsunamies and . . . and . . . oh sorry, I got a little carried away there. Anyway drink this stuff instead of that other inferior stuff.
Now that I’m off that bandwagon, I’ll begin work immediately on a new post for another healthy drink you’ll love. Come back later to see what it is. Have a fun day making your new and health-giving soda pop. See ya’ll later. And . . . May great sparkle and fizz always be in your lives!





penny said,
March 6, 2010 @ 11:15 am
Hi Marly,
Thanks for your educational post on converting to soda! I definitely want to try your technique, but have a question I hope you can answer first. We have severe (anaphalaxis) dairy allergies in our household. Once the dairy kefir grains are converted, will it still contain any dairy proteins? It has been challenging to find a way to incorporate kefir into our dairy-free diets, but I am hopeful your soda might be the way! Thank you for any light you can shed on this question.
Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS said,
March 7, 2010 @ 1:15 am
Marly,
Thanks for writing this up! I’m going to be referring people over here often….
marly67 said,
March 7, 2010 @ 1:36 am
Penny, I think the best thing in your situation would be to obtain some “real” water kefir grains. Only with these could you be sure there was no dairy proteins. I don’t know how much dairy would carry over during the “conversion” process. I certainly don’t see any milk residue, or taste any, but I wouldn’t chance it in your case. Do you know where to get these water kefir grains? Let me know; I can help you find some.
Thanks, Wardeh. This is an easy process, but takes about a week to do it.
penny said,
March 7, 2010 @ 3:37 pm
I really appreciate you getting back to me, Marly. Yes, I would love to know where to source water kefir grains. Thank you so much for your quick response and offer to help
) What a blessing it was to find your site!
Dani said,
March 7, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
Wow, I can’t wait to try this–gotta wait for my kefir grains to grow, though. I have a really tough time giving up soda pop, but did find some root-beer “flavored” kombucha at Whole Foods not too long ago (on tap at their special bar… it’s REALLY an upscale store!), but K-T just doesn’t satisfy the soda cravings. I have been trying water kefir, but this sounds much more carbonated than I have been able to do with my water grains.
Thanks for the post, and thanks to Wardeh for posting on her milk kefir grains so you could put the link out!
Shelley said,
March 7, 2010 @ 4:13 pm
So after you take the milk kefir grains through 4 fermentations, what’s next? In other words, how do you keep on making dosa> Does the kefir sugar water mix only need one cycle before being uses as a starter for soda after the grainsa are converted? How oftern do you have to ferment the kefir grains in sugar water defore you can use the fermented sugar water to start soda? Does this make sense?
Shelley
marly67 said,
March 9, 2010 @ 3:36 am
@Penny
Here is a site that will be able to ship you the water kefir grains.
Good luck. Let us know how it turns out. I’ve never had any of these grains. I would be interested how they compare with these converted milk kefir gains.
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/Water-Kefir-Grains-p10.html
@Dani
You will absolutely love this soda pop. It satisfies exactly as regular soda pop, only more so because you’ll know it isn’t going to harm you. Good luck and keep growing those grains!
@ Shelley
Thanks for reminding me. I knew there was a part of this process that I didn’t address. Check out the addition I made to the post. If you have any other questions, just ask. Who knows, maybe I forgot something else. lol
Connie said,
March 10, 2010 @ 4:17 am
GREAT Information. I am so excited. I have more dairy kefir grains than I know what to do with. I am going to start this afternoon!!! Thank You for this great post.
Connie
Marianne said,
March 10, 2010 @ 4:56 am
This is a wonderful post (and comment dialog). Water kefir is next on my list, and now I feel well prepared.
Thanks!
marly67 said,
March 10, 2010 @ 5:22 am
@Connie
I’m so glad you are excited. You are absolutely going to love this drink. We have it every day at mealtime instead of pop—which we used to have.
@Marianne
Thanks so much and please let us know how you do. And if you have any questions at all, or if I’ve left something out, please, please let me know. I am here to help people come to a healthier way of eating.
I appreciate all the nice and encouraging comments. Let’s keep this dialog going about Kefir Pop. I have a true story I’ll relate a little later about the healing benefits of KP.
Cathy said,
March 10, 2010 @ 5:58 am
Thanks for the super informative post and the great photos! I can’t wait to try kefir soda! I’ve got a kiddo who thinks soda pop is pretty important stuff and I haven’t been able to convince him otherwise…yet!!
Anita said,
March 13, 2010 @ 8:26 pm
You might be able to find someone on this list http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php who has some real Water Kefir grains (Tibicos). They ARE different to milk kefir grains, more like cousins, & they are specific to the medium they are designed for. Water kefir grains are clear & translucent, not white, & they feed on fructose (fruit sugars), not galactose (milk sugars), that’s why they’re pretty hard to convert.
If you are in Australia, I can get some to you;)
cmo said,
May 7, 2010 @ 6:12 pm
Anita, I’m in Australia and would love some Water Kefir grains
cmo said,
May 7, 2010 @ 6:13 pm
oh yah… simonmcconnell AT gmail DOT com is me.
Anonymous said,
April 21, 2013 @ 3:32 am
How do I get water kefir grains? I have dairy kefir going strong and will try “converting” these kefir grains but would really love to get a hold of some Tibicos grains. Please email me at s.plexy AT hotmail.com Thank you!
marly67 said,
March 14, 2010 @ 5:50 am
Cathy, I hope your sweetie will like this pop. It’s not as sweet as what he’s used to, but maybe little by little you can sway him to it. I have a 5-year-old granddaughter who won’t touch it, but another one who loves it. Every kid is different. I wish you success with this. Let me know if you have any questions during the conversion process. It’s really not hard and works great. (Note: the less time you let the pop culture, the sweeter it is.)
Anita, thanks for the link. I don’t have any personal experience with tibicos, but I have read about them.
Gilbert said,
April 2, 2010 @ 11:00 am
I am diabetic. Are these kefir soda pops high in sugar content.
marly67 said,
April 2, 2010 @ 12:31 pm
Hi Gilbert
I certainly can appreciate your concern about the sugar content of this soda pop if you are diabetic. I am unable to consume sugars myself, although I’m not diabetic. I could never drink this beverage if there was any degree of sweetness, as I react immediately, and I have not had any reaction to it whatsoever. It is my understanding that the kefir grains consume the sugars during the fermentation period. Just be sure to observe the initial 2-day water-sugar fermentation and then another 12-hour fermentation with the added juice. By then the sugars should have all been consumed.
My thought would be to taste a little of it first to see if it is “sweet”. If so, let it ferment a little longer on the counter.
Some people don’t appreciate this pop because it is NOT sweet enough, so I don’t think it would be a concern for someone who needs to watch their sugar intake.
Good luck and let me know how it turns out. If you have any more questions, please let me know.
Yours,
Marly
Gilbert said,
April 3, 2010 @ 2:05 pm
Thanks for the quick response. I have my beet kvass started and I’m looking for some grolsch bottles. is it okay to use organic raisins instead of the cranberries.
marly67 said,
April 4, 2010 @ 1:10 am
Gilbert,
The organic raisins will be fine. I use cranberries because I like the taste they make in the finished product. Any dried fruit will work. Find one that suits your taste. I tried several before deciding on cranberries.
That’s great you’ve got beet kvass doin’ its thing. You’ll love it!
Have you converted your dairy kefir grains yet? I wish you the very best. Let us know how it all turns out.
Helena said,
May 7, 2010 @ 2:52 am
I have the same question as Shelley. Do you have to go through 4 more culturing steps before making soda again after the grains are converted?
Do they grow more of themselves like they do in milk?
This will be fun to try!
marly67 said,
May 8, 2010 @ 6:35 am
Helena,
These converted dairy kefir grains do not proliferate once they’re changed to water grains. There are water kefir grains which will do that. Check the website above in comment # 7 for a source.
Once you’ve done the initial 4 culturing steps, you don’t need to do them again. After draining and reserving the culture to make pop, add more spring water, sugar and dried fruit to the grains to culture for 2 days and then use that to make more pop, etc.
These grains just keep on giving. Mine are still culturing water after nearly a year of doing so, but they don’t produce more grains.
Let us know how they turn out and what you think about the “soda pop.”
Helena said,
May 9, 2010 @ 12:37 am
Thanks for the clarification.
LIQUID MAMA said,
October 8, 2010 @ 11:16 am
Can you convert water grains to milk kefir grains?Please say yes.
marly67 said,
October 8, 2010 @ 3:10 pm
Hey Liquid Mama,
I understand that once your milk kefir grains have been converted to water kefir grains they can’t be changed back. However, I have never personally tried doing this. Maybe it would work. Why don’t you try it and then let us know.
As a note of interest, my converted grains are still going strong after a whole year. I wonder how long they will stay viable? Has anyone had converted grains longer than a year?
kefir G said,
February 26, 2011 @ 4:54 am
Are the dried fruits merely for flavor, or do they supply a food source also?
marly67 said,
February 26, 2011 @ 7:45 am
Hi kefir G,
No, the dried fruits are not just for flavor, although they do create different flavors. I’m not sure if it’s the fructose that the grains require for culturing, or if there’s something else at work here. I tend to think it’s another nutrient or an acid that is essential to this process. Any”dried” fruit will work, however, I prefer the taste that the dried cranberries create.
Cheers,
Marly
Vanessa said,
March 27, 2011 @ 8:44 am
Do you have to make pop out of it. Once it is converted, can you just drink it as it is?
What do they do with water kefir?
Marly67 said,
March 27, 2011 @ 8:54 am
Hi Vanessa,
Yes, you can just drink it as is without putting it in any kind of juice. It just isn’t very good, however. Most people add it to something else to give it more flavor.
Good luck.
Marly
Flavio Martins said,
May 17, 2011 @ 7:27 am
Hey Marly,
First of all thank you for writing this article. It’s exactly what i was looking for
I have one question though… why do you recommend throwing away the first batches instead of drinking them?
Thanks a bunch!
Marly67 said,
May 17, 2011 @ 9:40 am
Hey there Flavio,
I’m happy you liked my post. As we speak I am enjoying a nice glass of kefir soda made with pomegranate/cranberry juice—yummy stuff!
Actually, since I initially wrote this, I’ve been using the first batches with great success. So, what I would advise, if it tastes good use it, if not, toss it and use the next culture. Hope that makes sense. Let me know what you think.
Rose said,
May 20, 2011 @ 2:48 pm
Thanks for this recipe! I’m going to have to look into this more.
Anonymous said,
July 10, 2011 @ 1:36 pm
Hello Marky, Sooo glad I found your site!
I have to try your cranberry recipe.
My question is, how do I convert part of my water kefir to milk kefir? Can it be done?
Thanks for your help.
gigsi
Marly67 said,
July 10, 2011 @ 2:58 pm
Hi gigsi,
I’m glad you found this too. Sorry, but I don’t have any experience with water kefir grains. Why don’t you try some of your grains in milk and see what happens. Maybe it will work. Good luck!
Gina Burson said,
September 11, 2011 @ 9:54 am
Just found your site. I have 9 kefir grains now, I would like to convert a few of them. Do you think that would be enough to make the soda? I have made some soda using whey off my kefir. It works, put I need to get better bottles. I’ve been using wine bottles. It sometimes take a long to fizz. I use the kefir cheese for dips and recipes calling for sour cream or cream cheese. I have make cheese spreads with it. I flavored it with a fruit flavored stevia. It was good on thin ginger snaps. Look forward to hearing from you.
ekast05@gmail.com said,
February 3, 2012 @ 3:57 pm
HI … I have a quick question … once converted do they still keep growing or multipling same as water kefir grains?
Marly67 said,
February 4, 2012 @ 9:48 am
Hello,
Thanks for coming by. Unfortunately, they don’t keep growing but they keep on making soda pop–Yeeah!!!!!! I love my healthy soda pop.
Rusty said,
May 2, 2012 @ 10:40 am
Hi and thanks for the detailed and clear instructions. My question is about bubbles. At the end of every two days is the water with the grains in it bubbly? Does the water get more bubbly the longer it ferments or do the bubbles not show up until the second fermentation?
Do more bubbles mean that the grains are healthy and happy? Thanks again and I am happy to have something to do with my extra milk kefir grains. Now, do you have any useful ideas for milk kefir whey that remains when I make milk kefir cheese. It seems a shame to just pour it out.
marly67 said,
May 5, 2012 @ 10:16 am
Hi Rusty,
I’m happy you stopped by. To answer your question, if you look closely you will see teeny, tiny bubbles in the “grain” water, but mostly the bigger bubbles show up in the second ferment.
Yes, the whey is useful for lots of things. I use it as the water in my green smoothies. It is full of protein and good probiotics–we just can’t get enough probiotics. Also, I make dill pickles with it and cultured veggies of all sorts. It is good to drink after a meal to help digest the food and calm a nauseous stomach. You can also use it for the water to make bread. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Yours,
Marly:)
Marcy said,
July 25, 2012 @ 1:01 am
I tried your recipe using regular sugar (1/4 cup) because the evaporated cane juice sugar is not available where I live. I followed the directions exactly otherwise, but the soda was flat. Any suggestions on what to do differently? The cultured water was bubbly, and one of the soda bottles showed a ring of bubbles around the edge, but the finished product wasn’t pop-like.
Marly67 said,
July 25, 2012 @ 7:58 am
Marcy, it sounds to me like the second ferment time needs to be longer. For the past few months I’ve had to leave my bottles for several days longer than in the past. I don’t know why, unless it has to do with the weather–which has been kind of “abnormal” lately. Try leaving the bottles until you DO see the ring of bubbles at the top. Let me know if this helps.
Marly
Marly67 said,
July 25, 2012 @ 8:00 am
Also, I meant to say that temperature can affect the ferment. Try putting the bottles where it is a little warmer, but be careful not to get it too hot, as this will kill the grains.
Marcy said,
July 26, 2012 @ 10:08 am
That worked! I did what you said entirely by accident, and by the time the cultured water was ready to go, the original batch was fizzy. At what point would the drink be considered an alcoholic beverage? My kids want to drink it and I worry that if I let it rest too long it won’t be safe for them to drink.
Marly67 said,
July 27, 2012 @ 3:17 am
Marcy, I’m so happy that worked for you. You have to remember that the kefir grains are living things and will respond to their environment, whatever that is, so adjust accordingly.
As for the alcoholic content, there is a fine line between what would be considered alcoholic and what wouldn’t be. I don’t consume alcoholic drinks personally, but my husband does, so from time to time I ask him if our “soda” could possibly be alcoholic. He always says no. I think before it could become alcoholic it would turn to vinegar when all the sugars are consumed. At that point it would taste terrible, so I don’t think your kids would want it. If you leave unconsumed “soda” in the refrigerator for, say a week, it would probably arrive at “alcohol”, but I don’t know for sure. I hope this helps.
Marly
amy said,
December 29, 2012 @ 3:33 am
Hi I just got a batch of milk keifer grains and did the first step to convert them. However, the batch is smallish – and not in big cauliflouwer clumps but more like shredded cheese. Is this okay?
Marly67 said,
December 29, 2012 @ 5:03 am
Hello Amy,
The size of grains doesn’t matter in this instance. Just do the steps as outlined and you should be ok. Keep in mind that if your room is cool, rather than warm, the ferment can take longer. I have to ferment my kefir for several days now that it is winter. In the summer I can ferment in about one day. It varies all the time so don’t get discouraged. Keep trying. Also, bring all your questions. I would love to help you be successful in this. I love my kefir soda so much, I would hate to be without it. As long as I have kefir soda I don’t desire Coke or 7-Up, etc.
Good luck. Check back to tell us about your successes or even failures–we learn from failures, right?
Happy New Year,
Marly
Anonymous said,
December 31, 2012 @ 8:53 am
Thank you so much for your thoughts. I will let you know how it goes!
Felina said,
February 9, 2013 @ 7:25 am
Just starting this now, I have successful Milk Kefir grains and here’s what I did:
- washed grains in distilled water until water was no longer milky
- used filtered water from my fridge
- used 1/4c demerera sugar
- 10 cranberries (from trader joes, ingredients say cranberries, oil, sugar)
I’ll post back the results
Marly67 said,
February 9, 2013 @ 10:48 am
Okay, Felina. It sounds like you’re on your way. Check back in with your results.
Marly
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Arminda said,
March 25, 2013 @ 3:14 am
I just stumbled across this, and am very excited to try this. The only thing I’m unclear of is when I go to add the juice and put it in the little bottle, do I strain all the grains out first or do I wait until it’s completely done fermenting and carbonating before I remove them? Hope that makes sense.
marly67 said,
March 26, 2013 @ 10:06 am
Yes, Arminda, take out the converted kefir grains and start another culture with the sugar, water and fruit. Then let the juice with the cultured kefir water ferment until it has the amount of bubbles you want. That will depend on how warm your kitchen is. Also, I’ve found if you shake the bottle once or twice while it is fermenting, it will take less time to become fizzy.
Arminda said,
April 4, 2013 @ 3:53 am
Today I have attempted to start the first fermentation for pop. When I was rinsing the grains, I was getting less and less milk residue. The last few times I was rinsing though, the water was coming out sort of gel-like… Is this normal? It was getting thick almost like jello when it first begins to set, but it still in liquid form. A little worried…
Arminda said,
April 4, 2013 @ 3:20 am
Today I have attempted to start the first fermentation for pop. When I was rinsing the grains, I was getting less and less milk residue. The last few times I was rinsing though, the water was coming out sort of gel-like… Is this normal? It was getting thick almost like jello when it first begins to set, but it still in liquid form. A little worried…
marly67 said,
April 4, 2013 @ 6:18 am
Arminda,
Don’t be worried. I have noticed that when working with “live” foods like kefir grains, almost anything can be considered “normal.” I haven’t experienced what you are describing, but your particular kitchen is unique in its environment and your kefir grains will respond to it in different ways. I would proceed with the fermentation and “see” what happens. Expirmentation is a great teacher. Let us know what you discover. And if the soda pop tastes bad, just chuck it and start over. You might have to do this several times until you get the right taste. Don’t give up. That is the important thing. Get back to us.
Marly
Arminda said,
April 4, 2013 @ 9:49 am
Ya know, actually what it reminded me of, is when you pour salt on slugs, and they start like “bleeding” that gooy, clear stuff? That’s what my kefir grains were doing… I SWEAR I didn’t put salt on them! lol
Arminda said,
April 8, 2013 @ 4:10 pm
Ok, so today I finished the first batch completely. It came out great! I was worried I was going to have to try a few batched before I was successful, but sure enough, it was VERY carbonated! I didn’t use grolsch bottles though, as I couldn’t find any, and I’m not known for my patience lol. I bought some Goya marinade that had nice glass bottles, probably around 22 oz, and had plastic lids. I realized after doing these back to back, that I was going to need more than two though. Tomorrow my boyfriend and I are going to go to the World Market near us, and I’ve heard they have grolsch bottles. But the thing is that I realized there are two holes in the bottle where the metal inserts to hold the “device” in place. Do you not have a problem creating the carbonation, even though your bottles are not completely air-tight? Tonight I went up to the brewery, and my dad (he works there) gave me a case of 15 empty 22 oz clear beer bottles. The problem is, the only lids he had were metal beer caps, and I was afraid that would compromise the pop. I’ve been trying to find plastic lids that would fit it, but I’ve had no luck. Is there any type of grolsch type lids I could buy, or something that might not have to fit so tightly? Didn’t know if you might have had some ideas. Thanks.
plexy said,
April 21, 2013 @ 3:36 am
I just found this site and it is excellent ~ thank you! I would very much like to get a hold of some Tibicos (sp?) water kefir grains. Please email me if you have some or know of how I can get some! s.plexy AT hotmail.com I will try converting some of my dairy kefir grains this way as well.
Marly67 said,
April 21, 2013 @ 5:11 am
Plexy,
Here is a site where you can purchase tibocos or water kefir grains.
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/five-culture-you-can-use-ferment-almost-anything
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Kurt said,
April 21, 2013 @ 12:59 pm
Do I absolutely need to use Grolsch-style bottles for the last fermentation stage, or would another lidded Mason Jar work, as well? My main concerns about Grolsch bottles are that 1). I’m not sure where to find them near me, and 2). I worry about cleaning them adequately between uses. What do you use to clean yours? Is there a particular technique you recommend for keeping them clean?
Marly67 said,
May 21, 2013 @ 5:55 am
Kurt, thanks for your good questions. Yes, the Grolsch bottles are very much a necessity if you want lots of “fizz” in your soda pop. As the converted kefir grains munch along on the nice sugars you have provided for them, they like to “belch” a lot. This “belching” is actually carbon dioxide, which builds up under the pressure of your Grolsch bottle cap. Without this pressure, your sugar water would find the path of least resistence– right out the top of your container, and run all over your kitchen.
If you do use a Mason jar and lid, instead of this pressurized bottle, you can expect a major explosion when you twist off the lid. It won’t be purdy, I promise.
Look online for a source for these bottles. I got mine at my farmers’ market. They come from France and are lemonade bottles.
Stay tuned for the second question. I have to run now, but will be back to tell you how to wash these bottles. It’s easy.
Until later,
Marly
Marius@Probiotic Kefir Grains said,
April 23, 2013 @ 1:53 pm
One little thing I need to disagree with, you can actually revert the milk kefir grains from water or soda back to milk, they won’t hate you for that.
Carissa said,
April 24, 2013 @ 2:31 am
The complete proteins included in kefir are digested better compared with yogurt and are used more
easily in the body. Kefir was a little more unusual, but when
I discovered the Lifeway brand organic kefir at Kroger,
that’s when I started drinking it more regularly. [1] Health and Nutritional Properties of Probiotics in Food including Powder Milk with Live Lactic Acid Bacteria, FAO and WHO report, October 1, 2001.
Marius@Probiotic Kefir Grains said,
April 24, 2013 @ 2:20 pm
One thing you need to be aware of is that the supermarket kefir is made with a powder starter. It contains about 6 to 8 probiotic bacteria, whereas the kefir produced by the actual grains I believe has about 20.
The downside is the taste, which is a bit more sour, and it is obviously less convenient to make than purchase it.
Carla said,
May 2, 2013 @ 12:49 am
The first time when kefir is place in sugar water after two days, take that mix and do it all over again?
Were should I keep the first,second and third mix of sugar water?
How my kefir should look like when in the water mix?
My are in top and like 3 grains in the bottom is this normal?
Thanks
Carla
Marius@Probiotic Kefir Grains said,
May 16, 2013 @ 8:13 am
Hi Carla,
that’s quite fine, they can float anywhere, really.
It doesn’t mean that there’s something wrong with them.
Good luck.
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